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Help with Gulls - revisited

Posted: Feb 27 5:05 pm
by DennisM39
Here are the gull pics using Flickr to upload. Hopefully I will have better luck than with Google Photos!
Can anyone please verify what my guesses are at these species? I have been trying to understand gulls more and they are challenging to say the least! These were seen at Martindale Flats earlier this week.
Thanks!

California Gull?
ImageCalifornia Gull by Dennis McMillan, on Flickr

Thayers/Iceland Gull?
ImageIceland_Thayers Gull by Dennis McMillan, on Flickr

Iceland Gull 2nd winter?
ImageIceland 2nd Winter Question-2 by Dennis McMillan, on Flickr

Herring Gull?
ImageHerring Gull by Dennis McMillan, on Flickr

Herring Gull?
ImageHerring Gull Question by Dennis McMillan, on Flickr

Glaucous-winged Gull?
ImageGlaucous-winged Gull by Dennis McMillan, on Flickr

Glaucous-winged Gull?
ImageGlaucous-winged Gull Question-5 by Dennis McMillan, on Flickr

Glaucous-winged Gull?
ImageGlaucous-winged Gull Question-4 by Dennis McMillan, on Flickr

Glaucous-winged Gull?
ImageGlaucous-winged Gull Question-3 by Dennis McMillan, on Flickr

Glaucous-winged Gull
ImageGlaucous-winged Gull Question by Dennis McMillan, on Flickr

California Gull
ImageCalifornia Gull-2 by Dennis McMillan, on Flickr

Re: Help with Gulls

Posted: Feb 27 9:53 pm
by BirdingBC
Thread cleaned up.

Yup, Flickr works and we can see the photos!
Now the hard part, providing gull ids. I will take a crack at it tomorrow and in the meantime, welcome anyone with knowledge to share their input.

Re: Help with Gulls

Posted: Mar 03 8:36 am
by BirdingBC
Gulls are always difficult but I will take a stab at the IDs today.

First, here is a reference we are start from:
https://www.pugetsound.edu/academics/ac ... fication-/

and

http://utahbirders.com/images/temp/matrix-high-res.png


First and last gulls are California Gulls. Neutral Grey mantel, yellow legs, red and black spots on bill.

2nd and 3rd -- Yes, I think these are Iceland (thayer's subspecies) gulls. I would need a gull expert to confirm

4th and 5th -- The eye and eyering don't look right to me for Herring Gull. Think these are Glaucous-winged Gull. I need someone else to take a look here.

Rest, I think this are all Glaucous-winged. The GWGU found around Victoria may have some degree of hybridization in them and are often referred to as Puget Sound Gulls (Glaucous-winged x Western) Again, it invite other to have a look.

I am not the best Gull ID person to talk to (common saying by most birders right!). Gulls are difficult and those who can ID gulls accurately have spent a great deal of time learning the field marks for all the age differences and season variations.

Cheers and good birding,

Re: Help with Gulls

Posted: Mar 03 11:43 am
by DennisM39
Thanks for the effort Kevin, much appreciated. I am beginning to understand why a lot of birders are challenged with gulls!